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TeamB
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South Africa
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 Posted - 20/05/2010 : 13:52:48
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Finally ! Great to see a high profile cyclist admit to what we all know already. Years of denial from everyone. David Walsh must be ecstatic. I wonder if that court case re LA's win bonuses will be re-opened ? Floyd doesn't feel guilty simply because they all do it.
Would love to see that fraud LA be brought to his knees. Greg Lemond should demand an apology from Trek. |
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kxtr
National Champion
Germany
932 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2010 : 16:51:21
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http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=7473
--> in the linked thread the (supossed to be) content of Landis' letter/mail is quoted as it is in several forums. I do not know if it's actually the original text or just something that popped out of nowhere. Doubts may rise as almost no name is spelled correctly.
If it's the real letter, than good news for DaveZ - he's not named here.
my new blog: http://waitingforthecaravan.blogspot.com |
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Culkasi
Hors Categorie
United Kingdom
4080 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2010 : 17:06:57
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Will be interesting to see ASOs reaction - could we see TDF without Radioshack?
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TeamB
Stagiaire
South Africa
47 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2010 : 18:21:19
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Armstrong must be fuming. Serves him right for emptying Landis' blood bag down the drain after hearing that he had signed for Phonak.
Why LA ever made a comeback is beyond me, he had everything to lose and nothing to gain. Liked the publicity too much.
Has anyone got the TDF rider names for US Postal in 2004 ? |
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Barbarossa
National Champion
Denmark
373 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2010 : 18:35:40
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Originally posted by TeamB
Armstrong must be fuming. Serves him right for emptying Landis' blood bag down the drain after hearing that he had signed for Phonak.
Why LA ever made a comeback is beyond me, he had everything to lose and nothing to gain. Liked the publicity too much.
Has anyone got the TDF rider names for US Postal in 2004 ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_teams_and_cyclists_in_the_2004_Tour_de_France |
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mashjaja
National Champion
USA
900 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2010 : 22:45:09
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Question: Since he raised thousands of dollars in the Free Floyd fund which was to prove him innocent for something he knowingly was guilty of, couldn't someone(s)sue him for their donations back?
www.chaoscyclingclub.com/forum |
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TeamB
Stagiaire
South Africa
47 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2010 : 23:14:38
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It is disappointing to hear the UCI reject everything so quickly.
Surely they should take a conservative stance and wait until all the allegations come to the fore ? Was that not in the Hein Verbruggen era ? Why not have an internal investigation ?
Should their focus not be on catching cyclists that dope ? Why reject FL accusations so quickly ? The problem is that so much information is hidden from the public in this regard. I would actually want to interview Floyd in detail before rejecting him in public. They have shown their colours in support of Armstrong. Where there is smoke there is fire and when it's too good to be true then it usually is ...
Floyd is a marked man. When individuals own up to doping, people need to listen. To me is seems the UCI is determined to protect LA just in case their whole house of cards collapses.
What are the financial implications if his accusations are true ?
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sander
Hors Categorie
Belgium
2336 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2010 : 08:43:47
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I still think it's strange that he names Zabriskie. If he just did this to take revenge, he wouldn't do that. Of course the UCI is denying everything, the worst part is that about Armstrong bribing Hein Verbruggen.
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kxtr
National Champion
Germany
932 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2010 : 10:40:29
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I don't trust Armstronge or Bruyneel but I don't trust Landis either. I guess you've all read the reactions of the Radio Shack camp. They claim, Landis has constantly contacted them in the time since his positive, asking for money, a job, threatening them, blackmailing them etc. Maybe they are exagerating, but I don't think they've just made this up.
The same might go for what Landis says - the text I linked above seems to make sense, there are countless other clues LA/JB had the team on a meds program and basically forced the riders to dope. But still I'm not sure about every detail, especially the story of them bribing the UCI. As far as I know, the UCI isn't the only institution that gets informed of a positive test, is it? Why would Armstrong and the hog tell someone like Landis of it?
In the linked text Zabriskie is not mentioned but apparently there are versions where he is - has Landis a number of different stories to tell? Putting in the current TOC leader in to make the bomb bigger?
Landis' past of denying everything (even under oath), the way he acted towards Greg Lemonnd, the story about him basically stalking a lot of persons - he doesn't seem to be a perfectly trustworthy or even sane person.
my new blog: http://waitingforthecaravan.blogspot.com |
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Paul@CSC
World Champion
United Kingdom
1415 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2010 : 15:25:23
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I think this article (blog) Submitted by Adam Myerson sums it up perfectly.
http://www.cycle-smart.com/blog/2010/05/20/pretty-boy-floyd
It's hard to argue with him although burning it all down is a little bit extreme. The most poignant thing is even believing floyd was a doper all along, he's actually come to like him..........
Honesty is the best Policy!!
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Ajax0
Hors Categorie
Denmark
3798 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2010 : 19:15:30
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A new doping story - this one not as a big as the Floyd Landis scandal, though; the UCI has announced that Mickaël Larpe (Roubaix Lille Métropole) and Alessandro Coló (ISD-Neri) have been suspended. The former was tested positive for EPO on March 20 this year, while he was competing in GP Cholet-Pays de Loire, and the latter returned a test that showed abnormal high values of the asthma medicine Clenbuterol in a test performed during the Vuelta a Mexico on April 25.
Winner of the 2008 Tour de France and the 2009 Vuelta a España fantasy games! |
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Ajax0
Hors Categorie
Denmark
3798 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2010 : 15:59:31
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Francesco De Bonis (ex-Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni-Androni Giocattoli) has been suspended for two years - running from June 18, 2009, to June 17, 2011 - by the UCI due to abnormal values in his biological passport - and he's thereby the first rider to be convicted on evidence from his biological passport. Four other riders - Pietro Caucchioli, Riccardo Serrano, Igor Astarloa and Rubén Lobato - can expect the same kind of verdict, as they were all provisionally suspended alongside Francesco De Bonis, when the UCI announced the first five riders to have been "caught" with abnormal looking values in their biological passport.
Winner of the 2008 Tour de France and the 2009 Vuelta a España fantasy games! |
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CrossRacer
National Champion
USA
322 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2010 : 22:03:21
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| One of the VeloNews reporters said that WADA has a rule about multiple offenses. New charges can only be made for an offense that occurred after the previous instance. Landis was charged in 2006. New charges can only be made against him for offenses that occur after 2006. So everything he is confessing happened before the 2006 positive test, and he cannot be charged or punished for his confessions. It is WADA code 10.6.1. |
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Paul@CSC
World Champion
United Kingdom
1415 Posts |
Posted - 28/05/2010 : 15:04:53
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Garmin tells its staff to "Tell the truth no matter what"
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/garmin-transitions-to-co-operate-with-investigations
Nice stance from Garmin and one which will hopefully allow the sport to turn a corner. I beleive in the statute of limitations but there may well be scope for an amnesty to clear all this up and move forward becasue like it or not, if everyone who has had their fingers in the pie is chucked out, then there won't be anyone left.................
Honesty is the best Policy!!
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kxtr
National Champion
Germany
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Doping affairs in Cycling since 1980
